Stupid Paypal Tricks

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Some guy named John Richmond, apparently of Milford, Michigan, hacked the HTML form on the Paypal payment page for my Jude software, so that he could send me a payment of two cents instead of the $48 that I actually charge for the software. I validate the payment amount on the server side, of course, so my scripts never sent him a software license. Paypal took the two cents as a transation fee, I got nothing, and Mr. Richmond was, one assumes, two cents wiser.

But no, he had the gall to initiate a Paypal dispute demanding that I send him a license or refund his two cents. As part of the dispute process he wrote "I paid what the software was worth". He doesn't like my software so he uses the Paypal to send an insult and then uses the dispute process to yank my chain!

What a jerk!

In addition to griping, the point of this post, I guess, is to get something into Google, so that anyone considering doing business with John Richmond can find out about his jerkiness. Richmond uses the domain name clientsg.com, which is owned by his defunct Michigan corporation "Client Services Group, Inc.". Google shows listings for "Salepoint Inc." at the same address and phone number as "Client Services Group". Salepoint is not a Michigan corporation. Perhaps Richmond consults for salepoint.com, or perhaps he just uses that name for some other business.

Update: Paypal sent the guy his two cents back. So I guess the paypal user agreement allows strangers to send you money for no reason and then demand that you send it back.

Update 2: I'm getting tired of updating this post, but since I've been bashing Mr. Richmond, I should acknowledge a useful and unintentionally funny response I finally got from him. He writes:

Paypal allows you to use encrypted data in your HTML to accept payments.

You need to do this.

Contact paypal for the information on how to send your data as an encrypted block via a web page to paypal so idiots viewing the source code cant see it and modify it.

At least you check the payment amount. You would be amazed at how many sites there are out there that are automated and simply send out the licence when any payment amount is received.

The useful part: the info about encryption. Though since this is the only person who has attempted this in three years, I don't think I'll run out and patch my scripts now. The funny part: he acknowledges that he's an "idiot" :-)

Also, the timing of the comment from "me" strongly suggests that it is from Mr. Richmond himself. He seems to call himself "jobu", and he acknowledges that he exploits the weaknesses in sites Paypal scripts.

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It would be sweet if PayPal could or would effectively spank him for this in some way. I guess it probably won't happen, even though he was foolish enough to initiate a dispute in which he hacked a PayPal form. Still, that would be nice.

HAHAHA.

Everyone should do it to you!

Dont you know paypal allows you to use encrypted keys when accepting payment so nobody can just use your account info and do this?

Get on the ball!

Mr John Richmond is an utter clown, not only does he have no life needing to run around the net trying to exploit a couple of dollars worth of scripts... He can't afford to loose 2 cents.

Buddy, if you're in this predicament i'd look for a new career because when the loss of 2 cents becomes a tragedy you don't have much going for you.

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